Native Access V2! - VI-CONTROL (2025)

Anthony said:

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/specials/native-access-2/

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Wondering… Does it require space on your boot drive for libraries like (iirc) AI Solo? I recall some people didn’t have a workable workaround.

Soundbed said:

Wondering… Does it require space on your boot drive for libraries like (iirc) AI Solo? I recall some people didn’t have a workable workaround.

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I can't answer b/c I don't own this library (and it didn't come up when I searched for it in NA V2).

This version has some issues *and* it replaces V1, so I recommend

for now.

They have downgrade instructions, basically delete app and plist and then download NA1.

So, like Analog Lab 4 and V, I’m assuming you can have both and choose which for reasons.

More sinisterly, this smells of the post VC purchase of NI and iZotope

SHIFT TO THE DREADED SUBSCRIPTION MODEL.

EvilDragon said:

Subscription is only an additional offering, not mandatory at all. There's no shifting of perpetual license model to sub.

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But if 2 from 5 of the FAQ deals mainly with subscription I must admit that makes me suspicious too, hope you are right (especially on the long run).....

I am sure I will stay with version 1 as long as it is possible as I dont need anything from version 2.

So, the thing is that NA2 is rolled out first for subscription users, then it will be progressively rolled out towards perpetual users. That's the plan. That's why FAQ deals with subscription issues the most for the time being.

By all means, if it ain't broke don't fix it. They do still have issues to fix. For example, NA2 doesn't at all work on my machine because I have over 300 products registered to my account. The irony.

vallisoftware said:

Okay I heard back and it's not looking good for ARM people.
I'll see thier response but what I don't get is, you can't say something is ARM if anything in the chain requires Rosetta 2.
Apparently, the NTKDaemon Installer Mac.pkg still requires Rosetta 2.

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Okay, I just went ahead and extracted from the NTKDaemon Installer Mac.pkg the files inside of it which turns out to be one file.

I installed this by hand, ran the NTKDaemon app first then the Native Access 2 app, now it's working.
Anyone with influence with Native Instruments, can you just tell them (which I already mentioned in my ticket) to always update the installer package so it's Universal. It can be done, I know that for a fact, not because I'm a software developer, but other software companies have done this, I point this out to them, they correct the problem then thier installers (PKG) files now run Native on Apple Silicon.

EvilDragon said:

Subscription is only an additional offering, not mandatory at all. There's no shifting of perpetual license model to sub.

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Maybe, maybe not. The only empirically demonstrable fact about their business practices is that one cannot trust a word they say about anything.

Hmmm, stuck here

Looks interesting. What I was hoping for the most from some future Native Access update is a possibility to at least hide (ideally remove) deleted Kontakt Player compatible libraries from the list of installed or uninstalled products. Right now, I'm having several entries with the repair option that I don't plan to install again. I tend to test and try plenty of free Kontakt libraries, but I often need to get rid of them eventually to make space for future commercial acquisitions or for housecleaning purposes.

Also, I would like to see an option for remembering both the username and password (I mostly work on a single system). I believe that there was such an option in Native Access' predecessor.

Everything else looks OK, including the welcome dark-themed facelift.

IIRC NA remembers your login for 30 days, then you have to relogin for security reasons.

In order to remove entries so they don't show as repairable under Installed products, you'd need to do some registry editing (or plist removal on Mac).

EvilDragon said:

In order to remove entries so they don't show as repairable under Installed products, you'd need to do some registry editing (or plist removal on Mac).

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Yes, I think we all understand that. (In fact, Native Instruments provides a little app for this, at least on Windows.) The feature request is to put this function in Native Access itself.

That said, I agree with the earlier post that asked for a way to hide unused products in Native Access, without having to uninstall them. iZotope's portal has this feature, as does iLok License Manager.

EvilDragon said:

Subscription is only an additional offering, not mandatory at all. There's no shifting of perpetual license model to sub.

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That's always how it starts. Call it a conspiracy theory if you will, but we've all seen other companies go from "here's an easy way to get started with our products" to "all you own belongs to the state now".